Subject: [VP] Regina's Post on Fandom Appreciation and a note to Mamabird
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:02:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: CheyeneDgr
I can't really answer to most of the issues. The response has been
overwhelming to read through.
I belong to several different lists and lurk on them all, for the most part.
I lurk for many reasons. I am not really comfortable sharing some of my
stories. I deal with darkness, a lot. It's cathartic to me.
However, on another list I am on, I've seen authors of "dark, non-con" tales
greeted with less than whole-hearted enthusiasm. So it's easier to lurk for
a while and get the "flavor" of the listeners.
I *haven't* written any S/H stories. I just cannot seem to picture them in
the style stories I write. They are too into each other.
Also, I only *just* discovered the fiction. Most of what has been discussed,
I have not read, do not have the money to order until *way* after the
discussion has taken place. For instance, reading the reviews of "Murder in
San Carmelitas" had me keep an eye out for a copy... which I just received
this past week.
I am also not as erudite as many of my listsibs, and I am an extremely shy
individual. It is just difficult to sit down and type, compose my thoughts
and say what I want to say in a comprehensible and linear manner.
So why did I join this list? I love Starsky & Hutch. I always have. I
always will. I have been away from the fandom for a *long* while. Never
forgotten, but didn't realize there was any work out there to be read until I
ran across the S/H archive via stories by Alexis Rogers.
Then *crash*, I hit a couple of Flamingo stories... and thought WOW. Man,
I've missed theses guys.
Now, I wake at 3 friggin' AM in the morning Mon-Fri so I can watch them on WB
61 out here <g>.... and even bought tapes so I could record something for the
first time in years! And that's because of the renewed love affair that this
list has awakened in me with one of my fave fandoms.
I wish my muse would speak to me in regard to them. Maybe one day. Often, I
find it's merely a matter of time and immersing myself in the fic, the film
and the fandom for a few months and a story idea will germinate.
I find I love both boys dearly.... although when I was a kid, I definitely
leant more toward the blonde bombshell than dark and feisty <g>. Now....
well.... feisty *certainly* has something to say for it.
I love slash... I loved it for *years* without knowing that it was out there.
I just wrote my own little scenarios for shows I liked to satisfy an inner
need that I didn't understand and thought was just me.
I like this list more so than some I am on. It has always struck me as very
friendly. I love to listen to others.
Hmmm.
Well, I guess that's really all I have to say right now. Many others said
all of this much better than I, but I thought I would de-lurk long enough to
let you know that I find this place a fascinating and wonderful place to be.
In Peace & Light,
Cheyenne
^_^

Subject: Re: [VP] How did you get into slash?
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 18:18:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: CheyeneDgr
Well, if we're talking older programs, I've always slashed. <g> I just
didn't *know* what it was. I started with MUNCLE as a child and drifted to
Star Trek, then Starsky & Hutch and later Miami Vice.
However, I didn't know that slash as a genre was 'out there', and gave up on
television shortly after Vice and the realization that subtextual
relationships just weren't doing it for me anymore. <g> I mean, there was
no one to *share* with.
And although I still had my passion for my fave boys, I 'put away childish
things' and concentrated on growing up, raising a family and keeping a roof
over our heads. Don't ever believe the company line.<sigh><g>
Then I was hit rather blatantly by the lovely drawings in one of Wendy Pini's
books, "Elfquest" and read that. And there was *so* much subtext between
Cutter and Skywise, Skywise and Strongbow, Strongbow and Cutter and Bearclaw,
that I was hooked on finding something more *specific*.
So I got hooked on anime. Kizuna was purchased and consumed. <g>
About the same time, I hit my stride with the Anne Rice "Vampire Chronicles"
series. Wait. Wait. It really does all tie together. <g>
I was brought into slash through anime. The boys there are lovely and
androgenous. And even in Sailor Moon, even in the Americanized version, the
slashiness is up front on screen and hard to miss.
Excerpt (Just after Fiore <male> has forcibly brought Tuxedo Mask to his
hideout to heal him of a deadly wound and is keeping him in a force bubble)
Fiore: "You belong with me, now."
TM: "Fiore, let me go!"
Fiore: "No one but me will ever give you roses, now."
Oh *yeah*. *Blam*
I was doing web searches for "doujinshi", "june", "shonen-ai", "shounen-ai"
and "bishonen". And suggested searches for "slash" kept coming up. I was
really disturbed, wondering what slash (thinking blood & gore *slasher*
movies) had to do with boy/boy love.
It was a combination of searches that led me to an Interview with the Vampire
site, and the author *there* had written a crossover with Highlander. *This*
perked my interest. I'd always had a 'thing' for Duncan McCloud (although
later, my interest definitely switched to Methos thanks to Maygra's fabulous
writing)
When I had consumed all the Vampire stories and all the crossover stories
with the Highlander and later all the just plain Highlander stories, I then
read a crossover between Highlander and The Sentinel.
Mmmm. And TS was *still* playing. Later, I ran across a Miami Vice story,
and started thinking about all my old faves and best loved couples. And
thought
well, *hell*, I can't be the only one this old on the net who *adores*
MUNCLE, Trek and S/H.
So I started looking. In the meantime, I had written an LOC to one of my all
time fave Miami Vice authors. And she answered back! <g> Hello Flamingo!
In the course of the letter, she mentioned that she had a ml for VP, I'm not
sure how it sequed, now, but the gist of it was, would I be interested??? Oh
*yeah*. <huge shit-eating grin>
So, I found slash in a roundabout journey but am *definitely* in Starsky &
Hutch, not only because of my love for the guys, but because Flamingo invited
me to join. <g> There wasn't much doin' on the net in S/H when she invited
me, and I'm ever so happy to be here.
Cheyenne
Keeper of the Twinkle in Napoleon's Eye
Keeper of Illya's Dry Sense of Humour
Dancing in Doyle's Back Pocket
Who I am, what I am is shaped by my thoughts, not their hate.