Continued from introductions.

<Host01> WELCOME EVERYONE TO TODAY'S SPECIAL CHAT X-FILES - X-OVER !
<Host01> Welcome to today's Feature Chat: X-Files Crossovers. We are happy that we managed to lure five great authors of this genre into The Office.
<Host01> alas only four, Little Eva hasn't made it here yet :(
<Host01> They represent a variety of deliciously slashable AND "x-able" fandoms like Sentinel, Highlander, Pretender, Millennium or Once A Thief...
<Host01> Please welcome: BlueMohairbear, Lianne, Little Eva, rac and The Riticulan Amanuesis.
<Host01> Before we go to Q&A let our guests introduce themselves and their work.
<Host01> Blue, please take a seat in this cozy leather chair :)
* Host02 leads Blue to the chair in her first chat ever
<Host02> Blue, too....
<Host02> <Blue> Hi, my name is Blue Mohairbear. I
<Host02> mostly write XF, Skinner/Mulder. A
<Host02> friend, Jadzia, introduced me to slash
<Host02> about two years ago. I began writing last
<Host02> year.
*** Host01 changes topic to 'Spotlight on Blue in the hot seat <g>


<Blue> Hi... ROFL... I'm here
<Blue> I'm Blue Mohairbear. I write XF, Mulder/Skinner. I recently wrote an x-over which featured Skinner/Sandburg
<Blue> My friend Jadzia introduced me to slash two years ago. Last year I started writing myself. I'm a devoted Skinnerbabe
<Blue> done, I think.... LOL.
* Host01 hands out sunflower seeds and gluehwein to everyone.
<Guest01> Sandburg? God...sorry to be so out of it...is that the big guy on the Sentinel?
<Host03> the hairy one
<Guest01> <=blushing.
<Guest01> Oh
<rac> the hairy, smaller one
<Blue> Nooo... that's the cute hairy one
< <Host02> It's the puppy boy..
<Guest01> Sorry.
<Guest01> with Skinner!? ROFL
<rac> LOL
<Lianne> the short one
<Blue> Guppy, Host02... Guppy"
<Guest02> We don't get sentinel here
<Host01> Thank you, Blue. Lianne, please take a seat here
<Blue> I'm planning on a Duncan MacLeod /Walter Skinner story
<Guest05> poor things
<Guest01> Hey...that's kind of interesting, Blue. How did you come up with that idea.
<Lianne> Okey Dokey
<Lianne> My name is Lianne, and I was dragged into slash through Star Trek. m/f -> m/m/f -> m/m
<Lianne> Never looked back.
<Lianne> After reading some really bad fic, I decided to write my own.


*** Host01 changes topic to 'Lianne trying the Gluehwein and the hot seat'
<Lianne> I started with Voyager, but quickly realized I was not meant to be monagamous
<Lianne> I now write whatever grabs my attention.
<Host01> which is?
<Blue> Humans were never meant to be monogamous, Lianne
<Lianne> And I find crossovers a lot of fun, needless to say <g>
<Lianne> New War started as a War of the Worlds story that X-Files attached itself to.
* Host02 applauds to Lianne
* Guest02 is enjoying "A new war"
<Guest03> how about writing a Q/Mulder xover
<Lianne> Now I spend a lot of time trying to keep the damned thing under control
<Riticulan> <g>
<Lianne> Curretly it's hit Beauty and the Beast, Sentinel, Stargate, Pretender, Highlander and Due South
<Lianne> next?
<Blue> sorry... what is Pretender?
<Host02> Blue that about monogamy;-)
<Lianne> Blue, a show about a secret organization and their escaped test subject, the delish Jarod
<Lianne> (Michael Weiss, of Jeffrey)
<Guest02> I've not seen pretender at all
<Lianne> Oh, it's fun
<Blue> There are a lot shows we don't get here in Germany, and there's so much slash out there...

*** Host01 changes topic to 'Ladies and Gents, rac in the hot chair :)'
<Guest02> I'll have to ask around and see if we get that in the UK
<Host03> We do get Pretender, Blue
<rac> Hi, this is rac :-) I started in online stuff about 5 years ago
<Blue> What??? Where???
<rac> and the first fic I read was the epic "In the Dark" by Kellie & Julia
<Host03> Tuesdays, VOX, currently repeats
<rac> which was a triple xover, HL/ST:TNG and XF
<Lianne> Ooooh! Highlander/TNG. Very good story
<rac> Needless to say, I was bent in that direction right from the start.
<rac> Started writing HL, but got seduced into XF
<Host01> not a bad choice, rac <g>
<Blue> Oh, and how beautifully you do that, rac
<rac> and wrote a HL/XF xover that has pretentions of a series
<Guest05> lol! Rac!
<Guest03> rac:who and who HL/Xf
<rac> Mulder, Methos and MacLeod <G>
<Host02> And very nicely so..:-)
<Lianne> clash of the 'M's


*** Host01 changes topic to 'Riticulan, please get comfy and *spill* <g>'
<Riticulan> Well, with the person with the longest name, I get the last chance to speak.
<Riticulan> Always have been a Sci Fan and was tooling around the internet one day, and say a link to slash and saw my first BDSM M/Sk story.
<Blue> Which was?
<Lianne> (Mulder is *such* a bottom)
<Riticulan> Said to myself they can't do that, but from that time on I was addicted.
* Host01 winks at Lianne. So true <g>
<Riticulan> Such a slut <g>
<Guest05> M/Sk were meant for bdsm. :)
<Blue> Oh yeah... that's why I love Diana's stories so much
<Blue> Diana, Goddess of the Chains, I mean. LOL.
<Riticulan> I swing both the boys, and when I saw Jarod of the Pretender, I thought naturally, woudn't he and the green eyed Russian look really nice together, like bookends between Host01 and Skinner...and the rest, as they say is history.
* Host01 grins... Nicely put :)
<Lianne> And very nice history it is too <g>
<Host02> He also writes like that... great stuff, Riticulan!!
<Host01> ditto that.
<Guest05> Wonderful stories.
<Blue> Now I'll HAVE to watch Pretender!
<Host02> Yes, Blue, you Do have to watch!!:)
<Guest02> I'll have to find a picture
<Riticulan> Oh Do Blue, Mike Weiss is such a piece of eye candy!

<Host01> It is Questions and Answers time, folks :)
<Riticulan> He's Alex's good twin <g>
<Lianne> And he's supposed to be gay, too
<Guest03> has anyone wrote Mulder/det Munch, an obvious xover
<Riticulan> Yes, he is.
<Lianne> Never seen Mulder/Munch. Lots of Mulder/Bayliss, though
<Riticulan> But I did see Munch and Scully together, go figure! <g>
<rac> Bayliss, yes, good xover material there.
<Guest01> Munch and Scully!? ROARING ROFL!!!!
<Riticulan> exactly what I did Guest01.
<Lianne> Until she dumped him
<Riticulan> Gives some hope for the rest of us, doesn't it.
<Guest01> Hey...it could work. ROFL. I'm still writing a Scully/Frohike. ROFL.
<Lianne> <blink>
<Guest01> ROARING ROFL.
<Blue> Eeeks! I wanna read that! <shudders>
<Riticulan> Frohike has his charms, just keeps 'em hidden <lol>
<rac> thank god
<Lianne> *well* hidden
<Blue> As long as Scully keeps her hands off my Walter... ROFL
<rac> <G>
<Guest01> Yeah...I've got the story on the back burner until I finished the lastest Baton Rouge. But I'll drag it out.
<Guest02> I think Scully and Walter are sweet
<Blue> AND off my Mulder AND off my Alex... <BG>
<Riticulan> If she touches Walter, Mulder will make him pay.
<Guest06> Me too - re Scully and Walter!
<Guest01> Oh I love to write SK/SC!
<Guest06> I'm happy for anybody to get their hands on the big guy so long as they love him!
<Lianne> Can I have him, then?
<rac> <hands on Walter>....mmmm
<Host04> Did you think of the crossover characters first or the story plots first, then who to involve in the story
<Guest03> W/M/Sc has Big possibilities
<Guest01> I just wrote quite a lot of it as a matter of fact. ROFL.
<Host04> ?


<Host01> question to all: Why does crossover fascinate you - combining two universes, character's interaction with total different background? What is the fascination?
<Lianne> I like playing with explanations. Like, having the reason for the Center's existance be that it's a Consortium research facility.
<Riticulan> X files is such a huge fandom: thousands of stories, variations on a theme, I find that X-overs gives that extra little push.
<Blue> As far as all my unfinished stuff is concerned, my muses bring the characters together and order me to write
<Lianne> And let's face it, Frasier of Due South is *definitely* a Sentinel.
<Riticulan> GMTA Lianne <g>
<rac> well...speaking for myself, one of the reasons I see we write fic at all is to expand upon untapped stories and character developement. Expanding into other universes, where they intersect, is part of that.
<Host03> agreed, Lianne
<Guest08> definitely lianne!
<Lianne> And taking two universes and merging them makes them more well-rounded, more real
<Blue> ... there are X-Files everywhere, especially in the HL universe <g>
<Riticulan> And I kind of like the "rub a dub dub, three men in a tub <g>
<Guest01> There are enough common threads because a lot of the shows are SF or Fantasy and there's that universal connection?
<Blue> Give the guy a Glühwein, Host02, he's got it.
<Blue> hehe
<rac> Yes, lots of them have fantasy elements, and/or cop elements in common, perfect intersections.
<Host02> Yep - :::hands the hot wine over:::
<Lianne> Yep. I wouldn't do a Star Trek/X-Files crossover, for example, because they don't fit together well.
<Lianne> They need to have *some* sort of commonality
<Blue> Oh, Lianne, I read a Paris/Mulder that was really good
<Guest05> But if you think about it, guys from outerspace... Mulder....
<Guest01> So, the elements have to at least blend for you all in order for them to be successful?
<rac> Well, look at In the Dark...they used Whoopi's character from TNG, back in THIS era, as the intersection point.
<Guest03> Mulder had a Trek uniform as a kid. there's a ST connection
<Host04> *For All the Guests* Did you think of the crossover characters first or the story plots first, then who to involve?
<Guest01> Well, ST is set in the 21st century...you'd need something there to get everyone together right?
<Blue> But it only worked because Mulder does believe in aliens and Paris got into one of those time... thingies...whatever. LOL
<Lianne> Right, FD. Like in New War, Vincent is the product of a Consortium gene-splicing experiment
<rac> Yes, Guest01, there must be some kind of intersection point.
<Guest03> Holodeck?
<Host02> Time travel could be it... did that more than once.
<Lianne> That works, Guest03. Siubhan did a Scully/Xena story set on in holodeck fantasy
<Guest01> Yeah...some funky way to get characters from the 21st century together with XF. Time Warp, Holodeck, etc.
<rac> xover charcters first :-) I only write those who "capture" me.
<Blue> I love strong characters, like Skinner or MacLeod. My mind works on its own when it puts them together. ROFL. What I like about Jim and Blair is that
<Guest09> One crossover I read had Mulder in suspended animation on an alien spaceship and found by Voyager
<Guest01> I think I'd prefer what rac is getting at...some kind of present day connection would appeal to me more.
<Blue> I can see them both as Top and sub.
<Guest03> Picard can capture me anytime
<Lianne> Sometimes it's the crossovers (like wanting to do Once a Thief/Kindred because Ivan Sergei was on both)
<Lianne> Sometimes it just... happens
<Blue> Yes, Guest03, I agree totally!
<Guest03> Kindred?
<rac> That novel proceeding *into* the distant future, since the Immortals lived that long, and eventually the whole TNG cast was in it.
<Guest01> Kindred was vampires.
<Lianne> Sometimes it the idea. Like my Star Wars series where the Jedi are basically evolved from Immortals
<Guest02> Lianne had to explain Kindred to me LOL
<rac> Of course, the XF were not. But, it could've been possible.
<Lianne> Kindred the Embraced. A series based on the Vampire: The Masquerade role-playing game
<Guest01> Right, Lianne.
<Guest01> I'm more familiar with the game.
<Blue> I could imagine a Vampire Chronicles/XF - or has someone done that?
<Guest02> <sigh> what was/is Vampire Chronicles?
<Guest03> anyone do Forever Knight/Mulder?
<Guest01> MP and Arlene watch Buffy and love it. ROFL.
<Lianne> Anne Rice novels, Guest02
<Lianne> I think I've seen a Forever Knight crossover or two
<rac> Yes, I think the VC/XF has been done, can't recall who, tho
<Guest01> Also the spin-off..Angel?
<Guest02> okay-read Interview with a Vampire
<Lianne> Doyle <sniff>
<Guest01> He wants to guest star on that one.
<rac> And the FK/XF, too
<Host04> I would like to see mulder come up against Ashler (from her Witching Hour series)
<Blue> What is Forever Knight?
<rac> Vampire series.
<Riticulan> And oldler vampire show.
<Riticulan> Vampire as a cop.
<Host03> filmed in Toronto
<Lianne> Canadian vampire series!
<Guest01> I read a Scullyslash story that was a Forever Knight crossover. Oh there...I read two crossovers then! ROFL.
<Guest02> Trouble is there are so many series that never make it to this side of the Atlantic
<Guest07> Blue: Nick Knight / Midnight Cop
<Blue> Sounds great. Wanna live in the US. <pouts>
<Blue> You have all the fun over there. <frets>
<Guest05> nah, from what Host03 tells me that's not true!
<Guest07> Blue: was on rtl 2
<Guest02> I take it that you're in Germany then?
<Riticulan> I think one natural for a crossover with X files is stargate <g> Same time frame, lovely looking men <g>
<Blue> Oh man, I seem to miss all the good stuff, but there's so much I'm watching already
<Blue> Yes, Guest02, I'm in Germany
<Guest02> Well Hi from England
<Host02> Question: What makes you think about a crossover - characters? story line?
<Host02> combinations?
<Riticulan> Personally they come to visit me in the night, and demand their stories be written.
<Blue> Hi, Guest02... <waves> I love England!
<Lianne> storyline. Definitely storyline
<Blue> Yes, the character combinations comes first, then the story
<Lianne> and the characters
<rac> I love to write the characters interacting with my other favorites. IT's their own characters that make the storyline evolve for me.
<Blue> The story evolves from the combination, that's how my muses work
<Lianne> For example, Alex is currently explaining to me that he's a clone of Cory Raines
<Guest01> Wow...so you all pick your pairings and then write the story? Interesting.
<Blue> ROFL, Lianne.
<Guest01> Some of you, I mean.
<Riticulan> You know Guest01, I don't see it as a choice <g>
<Blue> God, he was so cute as Cory Raines
<Blue> Right, Riticulan. My muses are slavedrivers
<Guest02> I've nearly worn my copy of Money no objcy out
<Lianne> I get attached to certain pairings, and the stories come out of that. I don't do many cross-show pairings, even in the crossovers
<Guest03> ever get a story line than go looking for a tv match?
<Blue> Yes, once. I wrote a story where Mulder blows Skinner in an elevator. That came from RL
<Lianne> yep
<rac> no, not me, I'm only interested in writing certain shows/characters to begin with.
<Guest01> I get storylines that beg to be written more I guess. Plots that grab me...sometimes the characters end up to be different...but the plot is always there. I find both ways work well though. It just depends on how you write.
<Guest03> whose real life?
<Riticulan> I had a very strange one, an original character popped into my mind and demanded that Alex do some things to him.
<Blue> Mine...
<Lianne> And a couple times I wrote original stories because I *couldn't* find a tv-show match
<Guest03> i lead a dull life!
<Blue> No, dear, I didn't get to do it because my hubby refused. ROFL
<Guest01> ROFL Blue!!!
<Blue> But I wanted, the elevator was great, with all those mirrors
<Guest05> and the cameras don't forget the cameras. <snerk>
<Host01> Send your hubbie here and next time he will, Blue <bg>
<Blue> I doubt that.. he's slash-shy and shy in general
<Blue> My big mouth makes up for that
<Guest03> any body see the xfiles out takes, where GA is kneeling in front of DD in the elevator?
<Guest02> yep seen that
<Guest01> Yes, Guest03. ROFL.
<Host02> Does he read your stories, Blue?
<Blue> No... <sniff>
<Host02> Yep.. and there's one with Skinner and someone under his desk, too;-)
<Blue> That was NO to both,Host02 and Guest03
<Guest01> Some men are very slash phobic, homophobic I mean.
<Guest01> They can't handle it.
<Blue> Mine isn's homophobic, he just doesn't understand what could be erotic about men. He uses to say "I'm a Lesbian, I love women".
<rac> yes, Host02, the "rising sheet" scene. Heh.
<Host02> Oh, right... the incredibly rising sheet;-)
<Guest02> My hubby knows I read and write slash but he certainly wouldn't read it himself
<Guest01> That sheet scene is a riot.
<Blue> What's that, rising sheet? Tent?
<Host02> A big tent, blue... and that close to death!;-)
<Guest01> That's an outtake from Apocrypha right?
<rac> Skinner on a gurney with a sheet over him, and his "whatsis" gets an unbelievable hard on. <G>

<Host01> Question or all: How hard is it to keep the characters working together with such big differences in the show's mythologies.
<Blue> Huh?
<Guest01> Yeah, it's a hoot...Scully yells "Someone get a nurse!" or something like that. ROFL.
<Host03> Blue: he means, how do you make the two universes fit together
<Guest02> from the blooper reel - he's calling for Joanne
<Guest01> right - she was the AD on that one I think.
<Guest03> Do your xovers continue long enough for there to be a problem with converging story lines?
<Guest01> Assitant Director I mean.
<Lianne> Not very, in my case. I pick shows that dove-tail nicely
<rac> As in all writing, for it to work well and be good, you have to have a *reason d'etre* for the story, something that is driving it.
<Lianne> LittleEva!!!!!
<Lianne> You made it!
<LittleEva> Ah, I made it!
<Blue> Hi, Eva!!!
<rac> As long as your reason is clear in your own head, keeping things straight isn't hard.
<LittleEva> I was at the beauty parlour and I didn't think I'd make it.
<Guest05> good answer rac. :)
<Guest07> You look great - have seat, grab a beer...
<rac> You're beautiful, Eva <G>
<Guest02> Hi
<LittleEva> Thank you.
<Guest01> Yeah, what rac said. ROFL. That makes sense to me too.
<Host01> LittleEva, we're having an Q&A session going on right now... jump right in if you like.
<LittleEva> okay.
<Guest05> Hi LE! I told everybody -- you're TS xo is the reason I got hooked on XF slash.
<Host01> the question was: Question for all: How hard is it to keep the characters working together with
<Host01> such big differences in the show's mythologies.
<Host01> not at all, Eva - glad you made it!
<Blue> Of course, you have to think of a logical explanation why they get together.
<LittleEva> great Guest05
<Blue> From then on, just let them loose
<LittleEva> I agree with Blue. Though since Mulder & Scully are in the FBI it makes it easier to cross them over with other law enforcement shows.


*** Host01 changes topic to 'Q & A in progress.
<Blue> I read that great story, "Look", where Jim and Duncan get together... wOW.. And, Little Eva, I absolutely loved your "Living X-File" and the two sequels!
<rac> I think the secret to successful writing, no matter what style or genre, is to be clear, as the writer, *why* you are writing it. What is driving you, and therefore, the story.
<LittleEva> Thanks Blue.
<Guest02> I loved Living X-File and it's sequels too
<rac> Look and its sequels are by Bone.
<Guest03> does everyone hear post to X Story and the archives? If not where?
<LittleEva> It's especially easier when the shows involve people who move around a lot, like Duncan,
<Riticulan> Mine are in the basement.
<LittleEva> Thanks Guest02.
<Lianne> Mine is posted to Allslash and my page. I don't post New War to XStory, since there are quite a few chapters that have little or no XF content
<Blue> Yes, rac, thanks... Bone is a great author!
<Host01> Guest03, you can find links to our guests sites here:
<Host01> Check out our official #TheAD'sOffice webpage: http://mace.virtualave.net/office/
<Guest01> I would think a lot of the shows you've talked about have mythologies that would qualify as X-Files, therefore M&S could investigate them.
<Blue> I post to allslash, slash, and lots of XF lists and archives
<Guest02> I haunt Lianne's page every day to see if there's been an update
<Guest03> cool, thanks.
<Guest03> I rely on the archives, i can't keep up otherwise. /me salutes archivists and writers.
<Guest01> And yes, in the case of cop shows the crossover is plausible as well. The show did it as a matter-of-fact. And of course now the show crossed itself with Millennium as well.
<LittleEva> I've posted to the Mulder/Skinner slash society and Mulder/Krycek and 852 Prospect or Sentinel Slash Archive.
<LittleEva> Right Guest01 and Millennium could also crossover with a lot of shows.
<Guest01> Right, LittleEva.
<rac> LOL that's right, Guest01!
<LittleEva> I guess any of the cop shows or FBI shows or shows where characters seem to move around a lot, like Highlander.
<LittleEva> These shows make it easy to cross the characters over.
<Guest01> The Millennium crossover? Oh yeah. I really like Lance Henrikson, Diana
<Host01> "Please DCC your questions to our guests to either Host02, Host03, Host04 or Host01 "
<Guest04> Iloved the Milennium crossover Guest01 hi there Guest01
<Guest09> And on TS, on the show with Lash, they had called in the FBI to profile the killer, so a Crossover fits there.
<Guest03> anyone tackle the millennium/xfiles yet?
<Guest01> Mulder could be called in on any number of shows if he was loaned out to VCS, for sure.
<Guest01> For profiling I mean.
<Guest04> I might
<Guest06> Hal did a fun millennium/XF crossover snippet, I think.
<Blue> Why is it the only fibbies that aren't assholes are M/Sc/Sk? In every cop-show I watch the FBI guys are total nerds and everybody hates them. LOL.
<LittleEva> A long time ago (about 3 years) I did write a story with Skinner/Frank Black.
<Guest04> tackle mm/xf
<Host02> LOL, good you said that, Guest01;-)
<rac> Lyrica just wrote a fabulous Sentinel/XFiles double xover that includes the mythology, for the WH zine.
<Guest01> Well, there can be animosity between local PD and FBI somestimes IMHO. That's not that unrealistic. ROFL.
<Blue> LE, is it the one where Black comes to say goodbye to Skinner?
<Guest03> Skinner/Black is a likely combo
<LittleEva> I also think that you can crossover Millennium with almost any other cop show since Frank Black is a profiler. Yes Blue, that's the story.
<rac> I read that one, LE, very good.
<Blue> THat was great. Broke my heart
<rac> Liked the characterizations in it.
<LittleEva> When I did that story I think I'd only seen 1 ep of Millennium, maybe 2.
<rac> That's impressive, you caught Black very well.
<Guest01> I lost interest in Millennium unfortunately. But I did like the Frank Black character. He was very much at home in that X-Files ep. And LH's performance was fantastic.
<Guest02> I got my tape of that yesterday in the mail
<Host01> Question for all: What are the biggest difficulties in writing a crossover story?
<LittleEva> I really love LH too.
<Blue> finding the reason to get them together, for me
<Blue> and to keep a logical storyline
<Guest01> If anyone is interested in more information on profiling vis a vis what they are writing - I'd recommend reading "MInd Hunter" by John Douglas. Great book.
<Lianne> Making sure I keep all the 'voices' right
<Blue> I read that, Guest01. Fantastic book!
<Riticulan> One difficulty for me, while writing in the X Files medium is the inclusion of a possible less popular show: how much backstory is enough for this new character?
<Lianne> And trying to figure out relative heights <g>
<rac> Voices, yes, that's what I focus on.
<Guest03> do you feel that there is a lot of explaining of each story line in xovers?
<Guest08> lol lianne
<Guest01> Yeah, Blue. It really gives you an idea the hell Frank Black or Mulder too for that matter must go through to do that kind of thing.
<Blue> Yes, Guest01, it gave me the creeps.
<Guest01> Oh, yeah, Ritculan. That's a good point.
<Guest01> Riticulan, sorry, piss poor typist. ROFL.
<Guest05> Too much explaining Guest03 and I get thrown out of a story. I've left several x/o's unread for that reason.
<rac> Guest03, it depends on how you "write"...if you assume that your readers are savvy to the shows nuances, then, no.
<LittleEva> crossover stories are difficult just because it's 2 or more different shows and you've got to keep up with all the voices.
<Guest02> Especially when readers in other countires probably don't get one of the shows ontheir TV
<Guest03> any xover combos that you the writer(s) feel didn't work? and gave up on.
<Guest01> I give you guys a lot of credit - I couldn't do it. So, I don't try. ROFL.
<rac> The story that totally seduced me into XF was Guest10 Something Wicked, Alex/Methos xover. Fabulous. And I had to call a friend because I just *knew* I was missing nuances about Alex's characterization.
<Blue> Right, Guest02. I just read a Brimstone/SEN x-over and the author gave a short explanation on Brimstone in the header. That was all I needed, the story was great and I could enjoy it although I haven't seen Brimstone
<rac> But once she explained him to me, the subtly and beauty of that pairing was awesome.
<Guest01> It's hard enough for me to juggle the original characters I'm writing mixed in with the shows characters. Man, if I had to include crossover people I'd blow a gasket. ROFL.
<LittleEva> Ah Brimstone, another show I loved.
<Guest02> I've not seen either show Blue
<Host01> Yep me, too, LittleEva
<Host02> I adore Brimstone - too bad it got cancelled!
<Blue> Oh, you haven't seen Sentinel? Missed Jim and Blair? And Simon?
<Guest02> We don't get it in the UK
<LittleEva> Sometimes when I watch a show on TV I start thinking about how I could put characters from another show together with them. That's what I did with Brimstone.
<Blue> Ok, who's got copies for me? <g>
<rac> Guest02, no big loss. Seriously. Read the fic...it's Much better than the show <G>
<LittleEva> which rac, Brimstone or Sentinel?
<rac> Sentinel. Brimstone was good.
<LittleEva> how true rac, fic is much better.
<Guest08> but it is nice to *see* them
<Guest02> I found pictures on line of Jim and Balir so I'd know who Little Eva was writing about in Living X-File
<LittleEva> Brimstone was wonderful. I thought Peter Horton did a great job.
<Guest03> i tend to look for xover stories w/ either DD's or NL's characters, since i already know them. it's a little tough to get into xovers that i don't know.
<Blue> Yes, I agree with you rac. Aside from the eye candy, the SEN fic is much better than the show.
<rac> Sentinel drove me crazy...obviously written by macho guys for macho guys...they totally lost their real audience, women.
<Guest05> not all of TS sucked rac... just most of it.
<Guest09> Rac, except for weeping, diminutive Blair stories <sigh>
<Guest08> <snerk> diana
<Host02> I heard that several times about Sentinel, rac.
<rac> oh god, yes, Diana. LOL
<LittleEva> well that's true rac.
<LittleEva> Now that Brimstone is mentioned, I'm thinking of a Millennium/Brimstone crossover...oh oh.
<rac> They'd create a fabulous opportunity for deep character development, or the like, then devote all of TWO sentences to it and have a car chase. (sigh)
<Guest01> Hey, what's so bad about making a show that was written for macho guys!? ROARING ROFL. Just kidding.
<Guest01> <=macho guy wannabe. ROFL.
<rac> That's what WWF is for <G>
<Blue> Ok, I just decided I *would* actually read a het story if someone gave me Scully/Simon. Any volunteers? ROFL.
<LittleEva> the problem with Sentinel was that the show didn't focus enough on the characters, just focused on explosions.
<Guest01> Explosions! Lots of explosions. ROFL. That's kind of what bored me about it, too.
<Guest03> Eva, sounds like a John Woo film.
<LittleEva> I think each show had to have at least 1 explosion.
<rac> Car chases and explosions. Sheesh.
<Host03> Question for Little Eva: Are you going to write any more in your "Living X-File" series?
<Guest05> I love explosions. :)
<Guest01> But, I confess...I do like a good action show too. And I love John Woo films!!!
<LittleEva> Oh dear.
<Guest01> ROFL
<Guest08> Guest05 *is* macho
<LittleEva> I might.
<Lianne> Hey! John Woo gave me Once a Thief. John Woo is god as a result
<Guest01> <=a guy, what can I say.
<Blue> Yes, Guest05... explosions in bed... that's what I like... <slaps herself>
<rac> Guest05 writes a good serial killer in her Sen story <G>
<LittleEva> But since I have a kick butt job and my beta reader and I don't work in the same place, it makes it tough.
<Riticulan> Multiple explosions, blue!
<Guest05> Thanks rac!!!
<Guest03> JW= guns, karate & explosions
<LittleEva> I loved Once A Thief.
<Lianne> Once a Thief is my primary fandom.
<LittleEva> Interesting concept, Krycek/Vic pairing if you know what I mean.
<Lianne> I *love* Once a thief
<Guest02> Oh yeah!!
<Lianne> LE, Bren Antrim did one
<Guest03> I like Victor/Mulder
<LittleEva> I think I read it too Lianne.
<Riticulan> My first one had a Vic/Krycek/Mulder theme <g>
<Riticulan> A case of mistaken identity, I'm afraid.
<Guest05> Showtime is running all the OaT movies this month. I'm taping Lianne
<Lianne> And I love Orithain's Mulder in the Middle series
<LittleEva> Isn't that Showtime Extreme or something?
<Guest03> I problably read them all, but now i'll follow the links and re-read Oat xovers
<Lianne> All? How many is that. I know they took four episodes and turned them into two movies, but it's not quite
the same

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